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106. Whiting Bay. 17 Sep 2020.

August 12, 2021 /

Officious Starter didn’t disrupt my enjoyment at this nice course

Round £25. Par 63. Slope (yellow) 97. Value (out of 5) – 4

Having booked a twilight round on GolfNow we reported at Whiting Bay about 25 minutes before our tee time and were told abruptly by the starter “You can’t go before your time!”. Taken aback, we responded politely, “That’s absolutely fine, we were only advising you we were here”. With no putting green available or practice net in operation, we loitered around the first tee for 20 minutes (no-one else teed off in the meantime), after which the icy starter announced “You may as well go now”.

This story is hopefully not representative of how people are welcomed at Whiting Bay and the starter was undoubtedly unaware that one day people might read about how we were treated on arriving there. But I write it because Arran is a holiday destination and golf is a big attraction on the island, with 7 courses available; it’s important clubs present a welcoming feel, as they are part of a wider hospitality sector. Sometimes you only get one chance.

The 11th at Whiting Bay, with views of Holy Isle in the background.

The golf course opened in 1895 and is set on a hillside above Whiting Bay, a substantial village located on the east side of the Isle of Arran, which sits in the Firth of Clyde just off the North Ayrshire coast – it is accessed by ferry from the Port of Ardrossan.

The par 4 8th deserving of being the Stroke Index 1 hole at Whiting Bay in Arran.

Regrettably, I couldn’t find any information about the course architect on the website, which is a shame. The course has some clues for the students of golf architecture. Several holes’ fairways crisscross each other, making it a potentially hazardous walk. Some of the greens are very undulating, and some very flat. There are some very large greens, most notably the short par four 6th hole which was only just over 250 yards, whereas the difficult uphill mid-iron par three 3rd had a tiny green. Contrast this with the often clever use of small greens to protect short par 4s, typical of James Braid’s designs. I would be grateful for any information if readers have any about Whiting Bay’s designer.

Whiting Bay has outstanding views, here looking back from the first green with the clubhouse lower down the hill.

It is also a tough walk, and uphill all the way to the 4th green – I would recommend a buggy or power trolley for those less able. There are however no bunkers and the fairways are very generous, which with the length of under 4500 yards, results in slope ratings of 97(yellow), 99(white) and 98 (red). In summary, it’s good holiday golf, except if you are unfit! Also, for occasional golfers, in particular, please take at least 2 clubs more on the uphill holes, most notable the 1st and 16th.

The 6th is the best example of the odd design, a par 4 at just over 250 yards, but with a huge green.

The course was in great condition and clearly well maintained, albeit the greens were very mossy which really detracted from the rest of the set up. On the day I had a very good round of 76 against the par of 63, especially after I had recorded two triple bogies in the first 4 holes.

The really difficult 17th Green. It was such a pity the greens were so ‘mossy’.

With outstanding views abounding, and the reasonable twilight rates, this is excellent value. Just don’t turn up early, especially when the clubhouse is closed!

Facts:

Course Type: Parkland

Par 63 (0 par 5s, 9 par 4s, 9 par 3s)

Distance: 4092

Moly’s Gross score: 76

Moly’s Whiting Bay scorecard – 76 but with 2 triple bogies. Ouch!

101. Forres. 21st July 2020.

August 13, 2020 /

This course worth playing takes the biscuit, despite the nearby witches!

Round £60. Par 70. Value (out of 5) – 4

The town of Forres sits on the mouth of the Findhorn river about 25 miles north east of Inverness; located on the main A96 Inverness to Aberdeen trunk route, this is an easily accessed course, except for the narrow lanes up to the clubhouse and car park – please don’t try and take a caravan there!

The club, formed in 1889, originally played nearer Findhorn. It moved to playing the current course site, laid out by James Braid, in 1904, and was called Muiryshade Golf Course. It was extended to 18 holes in 1912 by Willie Park, then became Forres CG when, in 1944, the land was bought and gifted to the people of Forres, by Sir Robert McVitie Grant of Logie. Sir Robert made his money by creating the McVitie Digestive biscuit, so it was fitting those that ate the biscuits ended up with the course!

The short par 4 first looking up towards the pro shop. An easy start except for the wild slice!


This is a well maintained parkland/highland course at around 6300 yards off white tees and just under 6000 yards from yellow. It is quite undulating, with a number of semi blind and narrow tee shots, especially on the front nine. The course is rather imbalanced with the front nine par of 36 and back nine of 34, but both of similar length. The course has hosted Scottish national competitions, the best measure of its all round standard.

The aesthetically pleasing par four 4th, where a good drive can set up an easy approach shot.

Playing with Fran in excellent sunny conditions the course played shorter than normal with the ball running on its hard fairways. The greens were in great condition and well watered.

There are some really nice holes on the course. The first, a very short par 4 downhill, will temp the longer hitters, but played conservatively should offer a par start even for high handicappers.

Following three further short par 4s, the par 3 fifth hole, “Wee Birkie”, is a cunning par 3, where club selection is all important – miss the green and it’s really difficult to get par – aim for the dead centre of the green here.

Views of the mouth of the river Findhorn in the background of the 9th green at Forres. The pine trees give a real highland feel to this course.

After the easier front nine, the 10th hole is a long par 3, with deep slopes to the right of the green and trees to the left and starts the toughest stretch of the course through to the par 4 15th hole. To do well overall, playing bogie golf through this stretch is good for all other than the single figure players. The signature par 4 16th hole, looks more difficult than it is – a decent 200 yard drive takes you to safe territory, leaving a short approach.

The signature view at Forres from the 16th ‘Pond’ tee – a dangerous card wrecker – but a good drive leaves a short approach

This course was actually the site of one of my best competitive rounds ever more than 25 years ago – an 80 in an RAF Scotland golf competition, including being level par for the front 9. It was very fitting therefore that I shot my best round in a long while – an 84, despite hitting my first shot out of bounds!

Oh, and in case you were wondering about the title – the course sits on a wood reputed to be where ‘the three witches’ from Shakespeare’s Macbeth lived – the 7th hole aptly called “Witch Tree”!

Facts:

Course Type: Highland/Heathland

Par 70 (2 par 5s, 12 par 4s, 4 par 3s)

Distance: 5906

Moly’s Gross score: 84

Moly’s best for a while, gross 84, on a track with fond scoring memories

100. Roxburghe. 1st Feb 2020.

April 28, 2020 /

Well worth a detour to play this very well designed course

Round £60. Par 72. Value (out of 5) – 4.5

Hotel Schloss Roxburghe, operated by the Berlin based 18.12 Group, is not far from Kelso in the Scottish Borders. It was formerly owned as a hotel by the Duke of Roxburghe, one of the wealthiest UK landowners. The golf course, on the hotel grounds, is called Schloss Roxburghe Golf and it was opened in 1997; at over 7100 yards from the championship blue tees, it was clearly designed by Dave Thomas (1934 – 2013) with the intention of hosting professional tournaments.

Moly driving at the signature “Viaduct” 14th hole at ‘The Roxburghe’

With top quality hotel facilities, this is a great short golfing break destination, but with limited high quality golf in the area, 1 or 2 nights is more than enough for just golf.

Playing in a strong wind on a chilly 1st February, the course was, not surprisingly, very quiet! Even from the yellow tees, it was well over 6500 yards, and I struggled to a 103 despite having been only 2 over after 5 holes! This poor display was not helped by me trying to carry my own clubs.

The aesthetic par 4 2nd tee, either a straight forward slight dog leg left, or the direct “tiger line” across the tree line. A typically good Dave Thomas hole.

Although not scoring well, it was very enjoyable due to the great design; Thomas’ philosophy states “I believe all golfers must be presented with a visual challenge and the opportunity to determine a strategy for playing the course depending upon individual ability.” There were indeed many holes very pleasing on the eye.

The magnificent 11th, with superbly placed bunkers for the stronger player.

Furthermore, with front and back nines each with two par 3s and two par 5s, this classic layout had great variety from hole to hole. Throw in the superb bunkering, nice use of water hazards, sculped with mature trees, all in all this was great golfing value. Indeed, with offers available on golfnow.com this represents some of the best golfing value around.

The 13th at The Roxburghe, the longest of the 4 par 3s, take 2 more clubs than you think to clear the water with a long green to receive it.

The course was in very good condition, especially for an early February day. The greens were fully playable with no winter greens in sight, a great testimony to the build quality and the greenkeeping.

The approach to the par 4 17th hole, with very reasonably priced houses overlooking the course.

The are many great holes at The Roxburgh. Although the 14th “viaduct” hole gains all the plaudits that’s only really for the view. The 10th, stoke index 1, is a magnificent dog leg right par 4, and the run of holes from 10th through 14th, encapsulate the variety and strength of Thomas’ design.

I would strongly recommend a short break at Schloss Roxburgh, but I would suggest to play it twice, it was just one of those courses that you need to play more than once to fully appreciate I guess. It was a nice way to bring up my 100th blog on my journey.

Facts:

Course Type: Parkland

Par 72 (4 par 5, 10 par 4s, 4 par 3s)

Distance: 6546

Moly’s Gross score: 103

Moly’s scorecard, 103, which was a struggle in high winds.

98. Piperdam New. 12th July 2019.

April 4, 2020 /

Great value course close to Dundee well worth playing

Round £30.   Par 71.  Value (out of 5) – 4.5

Opened in 1997, the main golf course at the Piperdam Leisure estate is 8 miles to the east of Dundee on the A923. Originally called Piperdam Osprey, because Ospreys nest around the fishing lake that is the centrepiece of the estate, the course was upgraded in 2014 and renamed Piperdam New.

The beautiful par 3 9th hole at Piperdam New

This is a really great value course at only £30 for a midweek round, with offers of further discounts available through web sites such as GolfNow. Fran and I paid only £15 each, and therein lies the great challenge for golf clubs in Scotland – why pay a membership of £700+ when great value golf is readily available at such prices and freely accessible. Whilst the golfers retired from work may play 2 or which should go from strength to strength following the very sad closure of the nearby Camperdown Park course in 2020.3 times every week (and these members are invariably and understandably the people running the committees), how many working age people play more than 40 times a year? Piperdam pricing offers a great model of what I think courses in Scotland should compete with. The course should go from strength to strength following the very sad closure of the nearby Camperdown Park course in 2020.

The long par 4 7th hole at Piperdam, a good drive to the right of center is needed to give a good chance of reaching the green at this SI 3 hole

As a leisure complex, catering for holidays, weddings, etc, the facilities are also excellent for traveling golfers – little wonder its very popular with Societies. It also has a strong 9 hole course as well which I played and blogged in 2013 here .

Another great thing about Piperdam, is the number of tee options which visitors are welcome to play off whichever they feel capable of – I played the blue tees making the course 5800 years long, but given that it was very wet when I played that was long enough for me.

The Par 5 8th hole, with water all down the right of the hole – part of the strongest run of holes at Piperdam New

The course is set around the large fishing lake, which comes into play on several holes, and with the reeds and grasses it makes for an aesthetic walk even if your golf isn’t what you would like – perhaps pop the binoculars in the bag as the bird life is abundant here.

After the fairly short par 3 opening hole with a 125 yard water carry, the tough par 5 2nd needs to be played with a 3 shot strategy, then the 3rd hole is a very difficult Stroke Index 1 par 4. In other words you need to focus from the very first shot.

1st green at Piperdam New, a short par 3, over water – never a nice way to open the round

Some of the holes were very strong, and the run of 3 holes Numbers 7 through 9, comprising a long par 4, a long par 5 and an excellent mid to long iron par 3 over water, would not be out of place on much higher rated courses. I suspect being part of a commercial leisure complex in some way diminishes the perception of the quality of Piperdam New.

The course was in excellent condition when we played, with lush fairways, well maintained bunkers and very true greens.

On the day I played well, shooting 92 for 32 points, helped by my back 9 of only 7 over. This is probably a typical scoring pattern here, given the very tough opening and closing 3 holes of the front 9. Moral is “keep going at Piperdam” you rewards will come.

With a good drive this is a birdie opportunity hole. Typically aesthetic hole at Piperdam.

A really great value course.

Facts:

Course Type: Parkland

Par 71 (4 par 5, 9 par 4s, 5 par 3s)

Distance: 5818

Moly’s Gross score: 92

Moly’s Piperdam New Scorecard – Solid 92 in the wet conditions
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