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Category: Parkland (Page 18 of 25)

56. Portobello. 25th Oct 2016.

Easy walking 9 hole public course – but a no rake policy! 

Round £9.30.  Par 32.  Value (out of 5) 1.5

Portobello is a short 9 hole pay-for-play course operated by Edinburgh Leisure, which manages 6 golf courses on behalf of Edinburgh Council; an annual 7-day membership to play all courses costs around only £400 – excellent value.   However, Edinburgh Leisure’s pricing policy, with all courses priced the same on a pay-per-play basis, makes Portobello very poor value compared with the other more substantial courses (e.g. Braid Hills) on offer.  That is a great shame.

1st green at Portobello, with good view of Arthur's seat over this flat course.

1st green at Portobello, with good view of Arthur’s seat over this flat course.

It is a short, open and easy walking course of only 2566 yards, with some excellent views of Arthur’s seat, one of Edinburgh’s signature landmarks.

There is however little variation on this course, with only a couple of playing highlights of note.  The 6th approach shot over a bunker some 40 yards in front of the green provides a distance judgment challenge, with the green being one of the few sloping ones.   The signature hole is the long par 3 9th at nearly 200 yards and requiring a fairway wood for most I suspect.

Approach at the 6th at Portobello

Approach at the 6th at Portobello

The only memory of the club which will endure was the chat I had with the starter attendant, who explained the policy of not leaving rakes in the bunkers, due to the theft risk.  This is a great shame, and I concluded that a better policy might be to at least put the rakes out in the morning and then take them in when the starter box closes.

The signature 9th at Portobello

The signature 9th at Portobello

The greens were in OK condition, but the tees were poor, and of course the bunkers at the mercy of the previous occupant.

Overall, a good course to learn on, or if you’re looking for a quick 9 holes.

Some Facts

Course Type: Parkland

Par 32 (5 par 4s, 4 par 3s)

Distance yards:  2566

Moly’s Gross Score: 44

Moly's Portobello scorecard - 44 (12 over)

Moly’s Portobello scorecard – 44 (12 over)

55. Silverknowes. 20th Oct 2016.

Golf of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish in Scotland

Round £22.70.  Par 71.  Value (out of 5) 3

Silverknowes is a small suburb in the north-west of Edinburgh on the south bank of the Firth of Forth with views across to Fife.  The community evolved around the 1930s and the golf course opened in 1957 after an almost 30 year gestation.

The commending views of the Forth from the first at Silverknowes

The commanding views of the Forth from the first at Silverknowes

In trying to sum up my thoughts about Silverknowes golf course, I couldn’t help thinking about Abraham Lincoln’s famous quote about government being “of/by/for the people”. Arguably, no other country in the world would provide a low cost public golf course on such prime real estate as that on which Silverknowes is laid out.

The approach to the difficult 5th with the clubhouse in the background.

The approach to the difficult 5th with the clubhouse in the background.

The course is managed as a pay-for-play facility by Edinburgh Leisure, a not for profit charity, which manages the leisure activities formerly run by Edinburgh Council, although there is also a separate private members Silverknowes Golf Club.  Edinburgh Leisure operate 6 golf courses, with an annual 7-day membership to play all 6 costing around only £400 – excellent value.

The Arboretum backdrop to the 14th at Silverknowes

The Arboretum backdrop to the 14th at Silverknowes

The par 71 parkland layout provides an easy walking course with several wide fairways, so you can open up with the driver, without carrying around a bucket of spare balls. However, you do need to keep a keen eye on your line as the lush and green rough make losing a ball possible when you least expect to.

The course has undergone several changes in the hole order over the years, but now has a relatively easy opening 4 holes, but toughens up from the 5th, with the stoke index 1 par 4 7th, being the first of a number of very difficult holes.  Indeed, it’s actually worth playing Silverknowes to try out the Par 4 16th, which is one of the most difficult par 4s I have encountered, and that includes the 17th road hole at St Andrews.  At over 460 yards, it’s dog leg apex is only about 170-180 yards from the tee, leaving an almost 300 yard second shot – not something many amateurs (or even professionals) have in their bag!

The "par 4" 16th at Silverknowes

The “par 4” 16th at Silverknowes

The greens and fairways were in nice condition when I played, although annoyingly the bunkers had no rakes available, which caused myself and my partners on the day to have some interesting bunker lies.  The tees and tee boxes were also in need of some added care.

There were however many magnificent views across to Fife and the several islands that festoon the Forth, and I would highly recommend playing in the Autumn as the colours of the many variety of trees on several holes make for quite an arboretum.

Unfortunately I found the trees a few too many times on my back 9, coming back in 52, having gone out in 41 – golf the great leveler!   This course reflects so much of the ethos of golf in Scotland, and it is worth playing, just to understand that alone.

The urban backdrop a reflection of Golf in Scotland - The peoples game

The urban backdrop a reflection of Golf in Scotland – The peoples game

Some Facts

Course Type: Parkland

Par 71 (2 par 5s, 13 par 4s, 3 par 3s)

Distance yards:  5942 (yellow)

Moly’s Gross Score: 93

Moly's Silverknowes scorecard - 93 (41 out; 52 back!)

Moly’s Silverknowes scorecard – 93 (41 out; 52 back!)

 

54. Culcrieff. 20th Sep 2016.

Decent greens and fine scenery don’t warrant playing this overpriced course

Round £32.  Par 66.  Value (out of 5) 1

Culcrieff golf course is part of the well known Crieff Hydro hotel located in Perthshire. The parkland course, with fine views of the local Perthshire hills, was established in 1972 from a disused 9 holes, then extended to 18 in 2002, using a design by John Stark the local Crieff professional.

The greens at Culcrieff were the worst I'd ever experienced, as evidenced here at the 5th green.

The greens at Culcrieff were the worst I’d ever experienced, as evidenced here at the 5th green, NOT one designated as GUR.   Many others were much worse!

Being part of the Hydro, the course feels as if it’s managed as one of the very many holiday activities on offer, therefore there is no Golf Club oversight of the course.  This apparent lack of specific golfing focus, has resulted in a course that is under invested and not worth the money to play.  I rather suspect that holidaying golfers staying at the hydro are taken a bit for granted as a captive cash cow.  When you look at the price of £32, there are very many council courses in Scotland in much better condition, and no more than £20. The best discount offer I could find was through www.teeofftimes.co.uk at £26, even that is over priced, in my opinion.

1st approach at Culcrieff with nice views

1st approach at Culcrieff with nice views

The greens were decent, granted, and apparently built to USGA specification, but the bunkers were the worse condition I’ve played, several were designated as GUR although they would have been better designated as Ground Under Neglect.  The fairways also needed a cut when I played.

The 16th at Culcrieff had a tricky green to find.

The 16th at Culcrieff had a tricky green to find.

Setting aside the condition, the course has some nicely designed holes that are challenging, not least because of the small greens.  The dog leg left 2nd hole, although short at 295 yards needs a very accurate 2nd shot into a well protected green.  The long dog leg right par 4 5th will test the longest hitters.  The second to the par 4 12th will also require a longer shot that expected to hit the plateau green, and the downhill par 3 16th, aptly called “Deil’s delight,” is devilishly tricky to find the small green.

Nice finishing hole at Culcrieff, a 200+ yard par 3.

Nice finishing hole at Culcrieff, a 200+ yard par 3.

I played fairly decent scoring 32 stableford points with a gross 87. However, I shall not return to try again, and I would certainly not recommend playing here.  In its current condition, it should be priced at about £15 – £20.

Some Facts

Course Type: Parkland

Par 66 (12 par 4s, 6 par 3s)

Distance yards:  4892 (white)

Moly’s Gross Score: 97

Moly's Culcrieff scorecard - 87 for 32 stableford points

Moly’s Culcrieff scorecard – 87 for 32 stableford points

 

53. Stirling. 19th Sep 2016.

“Camera’s Please” at this historically located parkland course with  outstanding views.

Round £45.  Par 72.  Value (out of 5) 4 

If you play at Stirling remember to take a camera.  There are spectacular views of Stirling, it’s castle and other historic buildings and of the Trossachs, Ochill and Lomond Hills, even the Southern Highlands (in clear weather!).

2nd tee at Stirling with views towards the historic town - the rounded turret of the gaol is evident.

2nd tee at Stirling with views towards the historic town – the rounded turret of the gaol is evident.

Given Stirling’s strategic and historic location, it’s not surprising that golf was played in the area currently occupied by Stirling golf course, by King James IV, King of Scots, in 1505.  There was no golf course as such, on what was historically a “Royal Park” dating back to 1200 and used for Hunting – perhaps worth reflecting on when you hunt for golf balls here:)

3rd at Stirling, a typical well defined hole

3rd at Stirling, a typical well defined hole on this course

The current course was established in 1869, and has been subsequently developed by some of golf’s aristocracy – in 1892 Tom Morris Junior designed a 9 hole layout; in 1904 Willie Fernie of Troon extended it to 18 holes; and in 1967 Sir Henry Cotton redesigned the course with significant tree re-planting which is now bearing full fruit.

The Apex of the dog leg on the 9th, with fine hill views

The apex of the dog leg on the 9th, with fine hill views

The resulting golf course does justice to the views on offer and at well over 6000 yards, even from the yellow tees, will challenge your handicap to the full (see Moly’s card below for evidence!).  Stirling is a classic layout, with both front and back 9s, each having a par of 36 with 2 par 3s and par 5s.  There is also a really good level of architectural variety, in terms of uphill, downhill, dog-legs right and left.  The course sits on a hill and this is therefore no easy walk, but it’s worth it.

One of my playing partners, Gordon, plays at the 11th with Stirling Castle in the background

One of my playing partners, Gordon, plays at the 11th with Stirling Castle in the background

The highlight holes for me were the dog-legs:  the par 5 1st is a tough start, the 9th offers great hill views from the dog leg apex, and the par 4 15th, which is SI2, is the best hole on the course in my opinion requiring a 220+ yard uphill drive to give access to the plateau green.   The only omission in the design for me is the lack of a 200+ yard par 3, although the par 3 8th, at 180 yards uphill, required a recovery or long iron.

The 15th at Stirling with the Castle in the background

The 15th at Stirling with the Castle in the background

The course was also in great condition when I played along with some former colleagues of the charity Apex (Scotland), which does so much good work helping people rebuild their lives after offending.  Only downside was that the greens had been treated with sand, making putting very slow and different compared with my local links greens.

Stirling also has a nice club house, serving good food.  Its well worth playing Stirling.

Some Facts

Course Type: Parkland

Par 72 (4 par 5s, 10 par 4s, 4 par 3s)

Distance yards:  6201 (yellow)

Moly’s Gross Score: 99

Moly's Stirling scorecard - 99

Moly’s Stirling scorecard – 99

 

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